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| I updated umbrel and it goes down. 3rd time this has happened. Can't seem to get back in no matter how many times I  |
| restart my raspberry pi.                                                                                             |
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| I'm getting really sick of this. Just going to move to @Start9                                                       |
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| @ManiMe You need to solve this discoverability problem pronto, mate.                                                 |
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| I want to recommend Nostr to people I know, but if they don't see the content they want, and they only see the       |
| trolls and propaganda, they likely will not come back for years, if at all.                                          |
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| IMO, this is an even bigger problem with Nostr than the lack of privacy, which is really saying something.           |
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| Related: I'm considering doing another meshtastic class, this time leaning into the cypherpunk culture aspect to     |
| expose people to those ideas.                                                                                        |
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| Hey #nostr                                                                                                           |
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| I will be embarking on the journey to build a Nostr group workspace client. I've been closing following projects     |
| like Flotilla, 0xchat, & KeyChat for over a year and while all of these are great contributions to Nostr none of     |
| them have reached for the enterprise level user that my community building work on Nostr has needed. So, I'm going   |
| to draw from the inspiration of everyone here and build someone, think decentralized Slack + Asana + MS365. Right    |
| now I'm scoping it for NIP-29 rooms inside per-workspace relays (Relays-as-Groups model), NIP-17 private channels,   |
| kanban (NIP-100), collaborative file creation and storage, and admin/moderator console that non-tech users can       |
| operate. Goal is that a client like this can remove the barrier in onboarding artists, educators, and non-profits    |
| communities who want to use Nostr but get overwhelmed by the complexity of our ecosystem. I don't foresee this as    |
| re-inventing the wheel so much as consolidating a bunch of different specs into one client.                          |
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| That said, I have three honest questions for all the devs out there:                                                 |
| 1. NDK or Applesauce for a new React + TypeScript project starting today? What are the real-world pain points of     |
| each for NIP-29 + NIP-17 specifically?                                                                               |
| 2. Has anyone shipped NIP-17 group DMs inside a NIP-29 workspace? The multi-recipient gift-wrap pattern works in     |
| theory but I haven't found a working client implementation to reference.                                             |
| 3. Typing indicators (kind 24111 ephemeral) on a private relay — anyone done this? Expecting it to be                |
| straightforward since all members share the relay, but want to know if there are any gotchas.                        |
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| Also if anyone has relay recommendations, I'm assuming something khatru based is best for this endeavor but am open  |
| to suggestions as, like with everything Nostr, I'm learning this as I go.                                            |
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| Happy to share architecture notes with anyone interested in collaborating. Not looking for funding or hype — looking |
| for people who've hit walls in this problem space and are open to sharing their experience and insights.             |
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| #asknostr #dev #buildinpublic                                                                                        |
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| biggest rug pull on nostr imo                                                                                        |
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| yeah, can't zap. very sad                                                                                            |
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| i would just start by engaging with what you see on here that you like. there is no algorithm to push content in     |
| your face here so you have to explore. jumble.social is a great place to check out relay feeds if that's something   |
| you're interested in, but most of the big clients run some sort of cashing relay that should do a good enough job to |
| get you started. Always ask if you have questions about stuff here. Folks are usually pretty supportive              |
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| but are the AI trainings actually being put to productive use or are opperations basically staying the same? my gut  |
| tells me we aren't at peak yet but idk 🤷🏻‍♂️                                                                           |
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| pastries are the only thing that could sell this to me. got to be better than what i can pick up at cosco though     |
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| same! i use a Fossil atm cause i wanted something more dumb than smart. notifications are the primary use of smart   |
| watches personally and i've been leaning toward wanting less and less of these but open-source would be great for    |
| customization, eapecially as AR glasses start to take off and a lot of features migrate their first.                 |
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| looks better than my closet office 😂                                                                                 |
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| ج م 🕌                                                                                                                |
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| We have a lot of work to do to make Nostr great. Just like the early Muhajarun did in building Medina. Those of us   |
| who have been here a while, we are the Ansar now. Ensure we are maintaining connections with the new folks here.     |
| Onboarding isn't just a technological switch you make by downloading new software. It is the relationships you       |
| engage in in that new space that are the locus of transformation.                                                    |
| nostr:naddr1qq2kwwz3femyvep5dez5566kxc6ys6m3f385xq3q7veg2gt7ja4dnjhs23jyttvpqlde3ajevlxuumxwghnqmgqwuv4qxpqqqp65wync |
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| Parents! Please do not post pics of your kids!                                                                       |
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| Personal story. I have be very clear with the school my daughter is in not to take pictures of her and post them     |
| online or in any marketing/promotional stuff. Had to yell at them this week for violating that (again). 🤦🏻‍♂️          |
| note:b9867e93…a2e7                                                                                                   |
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| {"id":"2d7a4bedeb180b4f03bc2e2ed20b95263e4cfbe57ecf5b6c430598a5eba7705e","pubkey":"d3503e7fee91a4b0bc27feec2f94abcae |
| 7be96172296dd52db91d55438cbe529","created_at":1776768535,"kind":1,"tags":[["imeta","url                              |
| https://image.nostr.build/f9cbb82f9feac21ab673a3e6b905a58398bbe6796b6f86ae0e3370c382d445cf.jpg","blurhash            |
| egQ9+fayt7fQaz~qWBaeWCWC4nWBRjWBWB_2WBayayWCD%WBWBayay","dim                                                         |
| 1179x1159"],["r","https://image.nostr.build/f9cbb82f9feac21ab673a3e6b905a58398bbe6796b6f86ae0e3370c382d445cf.jpg"]], |
| "content":"Tuesday                                                                                                   |
| dua\n\nhttps://image.nostr.build/f9cbb82f9feac21ab673a3e6b905a58398bbe6796b6f86ae0e3370c382d445cf.jpg","sig":"22d4da |
| a2f798a3e4f26585c881cd83eab5b002d1a1210d6d2ade29f0a6b2ea452b5c4d9d8e150dda7de876e7bdf68dc30ad86277a4c1bacb6b1aba2c12 |
| 1c0753"}                                                                                                             |
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| {"id":"3576c5acdb1ddb08af484e6799f9be4eb6d97d095b11e8778a88b4e598c21188","pubkey":"5729ad991a7e0cb88971ced2348758105 |
| 790d51160a09b22d0d8f39ca762de11","created_at":1776991775,"kind":1,"tags":[["alt","A short note: 💯 spot on couldn't   |
| say it                                                                                                               |
| better\nnostr:nevent1qqs..."],["p","adc14fa3ad590856dd8b80815d367f7c1e6735ad00fd98a86d002fbe9fb535e1","wss://bitcoin |
| maximalists.online/"],["zap","adc14fa3ad590856dd8b80815d367f7c1e6735ad00fd98a86d002fbe9fb535e1","wss://bitcoinmaxima |
| lists.online/","0.5"],["zap","5729ad991a7e0cb88971ced2348758105790d51160a09b22d0d8f39ca762de11","wss://nos.lol/","0. |
| 5"],["client","Amethyst"]],"content":"💯 spot on couldn't say it                                                      |
| better\nnote:5b73bedc…9165","sig":"8c43430b599794b9c184c0da499d09a4fc7e3d092e7b55604903b4323b3e79801b07d05e46af46cd7 |
| 099efa462279dfbb1533113481e1a50707db7a80a97ab82"}                                                                    |
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| hear about Iraq but not Syria. very interesting                                                                      |
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| stop! i have to try this now 😋                                                                                       |
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| 👀 i know someone who worked at that cloud seeing place. haven't heard from them in a month. this is big if true      |
| note:f5729609…3bb6                                                                                                   |
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| {"id":"c3b11491fd220dabc691bc3ddfe6fd811e738e9f2891c951054ca4c65101ede7","pubkey":"4523be58d395b1b196a9b8c82b038b689 |
| 5cb02b683d0c253a955068dba1facd0","created_at":1776890569,"kind":1,"tags":[["imeta","url                              |
| https://npub1g53mukxnjkcmr94fhryzkqutdz2ukq4ks0gvy5af25rgmwsl4ngq43drvk.blossom.band/a4e199c8416b531337f9ff1d3fd3010 |
| 0ceb64c6afe14cc1e65e3c95ccadc5bd4.png","dim 2630x1904","blurhash                                                     |
| L65}p*M{o$Rj?doMkERkD%%Naeo3"]],"content":"https://npub1g53mukxnjkcmr94fhryzkqutdz2ukq4ks0gvy5af25rgmwsl4ngq43drvk.b |
| lossom.band/a4e199c8416b531337f9ff1d3fd30100ceb64c6afe14cc1e65e3c95ccadc5bd4.png\n\nhttps://audio.iris.to/#/npub1af8 |
| 708jh7gynpxlla5he9u9etdva85wtf6yfy3zrnzhw5lhrzlks685f8p/metal-catalog\n\nSpotify clone on nostr / blossom /          |
| hashtree. Data is loaded from peers over webrtc even if you disable the blossom servers.\n\nHashtree is a nostr      |
| native \"IPFS lite\", basically just blossom + directories and file chunking. Everything is content hash key         |
| encrypted by default, which is nice for blossom server admins. More: https://hashtree.cc/#/dev\n\nBtree indexes on   |
| hashtree enable large, searchable decentralized databases that can be used for all kinds of \"platform\"             |
| applications.\n\nHashtree indexes can be queried a bit like nostr relays, but they're not tied to any IP address,    |
| domain name or host. You can sync them over any transport and search offline.\n\nContent-addressed indexes are       |
| transparent: you can verify that you see the same search results as others and aren't shadowbanned.\n\nYou can       |
| easily fork the large indexes (such as audio.iris.to catalogs) and add your own results into them, even in the       |
| browser.","sig":"b2da09526c82f51f60537881134f69e46d29baa3834a1cb59f6436f753edcb51bc9789fa81f6f26dd6fbf5f3ed92de6533d |
| 72811655245f89e54982425303ea3"}                                                                                      |
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| i have never had Reddit 🫠                                                                                            |
| note:c2b77986…58a8                                                                                                   |
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| i got a T490 off Amazon for $180 last year                                                                           |
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| heard the same recently                                                                                              |
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| time it takes to fly from London to New York to Tokyo to London is significantly shorter than the time it takes to   |
| fly Dubai to Miami to Hong Kong to Dubai, and that time is longer than the time it takes to fly Sydney to Sao Paolo  |
| to Johannesburg to Sydney. \n\nThis only makes sense if the earth is round and thicker near the equator. If the      |
| earth was flat with the north pole in the middle, the Sydney circumnavigation would be the longest, London the       |
| shortest. I can't think of any other explanation.                                                                    |
| \n\n","sig":"3a1d0558a5f642c3bc4023f0ff4046172f978c8caf6ed22f050014f0e18357718e2a491ab216b1f692711a45a74efea9e498ead |
| de4804dd409024a80c1e3ad73"}                                                                                          |
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| anyone using Hermes? what's been your experience?                                                                    |
| note:dda46e85…7d8e                                                                                                   |
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| very likely your posts will appear on the relays you are connected to. most are set up that way. some might be read  |
| only though so it can vary. and depending on which client you are using you will be able to customize your relay     |
| selections. there are lots to choose from and you could even run your own if you wished.                             |
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| Welcome to Nostr                                                                                                     |
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| X is Zionist media                                                                                                   |
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| make #digitalhijra                                                                                                   |
| note:6a018977…c304                                                                                                   |
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| i'll have to check later when i'm bsck at my computer.                                                               |
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| very nice! just reviewed on mobile. was a little slow to load but that's the cleanest i've seen yet                  |
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| As promised, here is the text of my Nostr talk I gave at #MBS26 this past weekend. For those in attendance, I would  |
| recommend jumping to section IV as that was where my version control got messed up so from there to the end was not  |
| give the detail I had intended. Additionally I've gone and added some footnotes that include some further insights   |
| and resources. May Allah bless all who attended and those who read this article here on Nostr.                       |
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| nrdakj7qq4vuu9znnkgejrgmj9ff44vd35fp4hznz0gv5jw6sq                                                                   |
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| "but nostr ded"                                                                                                      |
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| https://media2.giphy.com/media/VJxNm7zrm3K4E/200w.webp                                                               |
| note:0f2293b7…cf3f                                                                                                   |
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