+- Juraj -- 1d ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[...]+ | | | What good is a social network or protocol without a lot of users? | | | | First a personal flip to this question. I was on mailing lists, usenet, irc, silc, kyberia, facebook, ... Everytime | | it became too crowded, I left. Not with a statement, rarely it was even a decision. I did not even burn any bridges | | and I don't think anything bad about people who stayed. I just stopped going, because the noise (and sometimes | | drama) was too much compared to the signal. | | | | I'm not an introvert, but in this regard something similar - otrovert. I like interactions, I don't get group | | rituals. | | | | So what good is a social network without numbers to back up reach? I used to work for a web portal of a TV station. | | I think one of the worst investments there is is buying a lot of reach. Maybe if you sell mass market shampoo or | | junkfood, it makes sense. For every other case, you want limited reach. Limited to people who want to hear from you. | | They might or might not know that they want to hear from you, but the second it feels you intruded their attention, | | you lost a good customer. And that's true regardless if they buy from you or don't. There's an aftertaste of force. | | | | People often hate the practice of marketing, but I realize it's because they were exposed to so much junk. It's like | | saying you hate Chinese food because you only went to shitty restaurants and got food poisoning. Go to a five star | | Chinese restaurant. | | | | I get it, the shitty marketing way outnumbers nice, honest marketing that you want to hear. | | | | So what good is a social network without reach? | | | | You want to reach the right people. Those that want to hear from you. Of course small doesn't mean it's the right | | fit. Promoting scammy shitcoins or junkfood on Nostr won't work, we don't care. But the story is more complex than | | numbers. | | | | And personally - I'd rather not read bullshit with breaking as the first word. And "this changes everything". I wish | | there was more content that I'm interested in. But this also has a flipside. A lot of content that I'm interested in | | is just not on other networks. | | | +-- reply --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [11 replies] ---+What good is a social network or protocol without a lot of users? First a personal flip to this question. I was on mailing lists, usenet, irc, silc, kyberia, facebook, ... Everytime it became too crowded, I left. Not with a statement, rarely it was even a decision. I did not even burn any bridges and I don't think anything bad about people who stayed. I just stopped going, because the noise (and sometimes drama) was too much compared to the signal. I'm not an introvert, but in this regard something similar - otrovert. I like interactions, I don't get group rituals. So what good is a social network without numbers to back up reach? I used to work for a web portal of a TV station. I think one of the worst investments there is is buying a lot of reach. Maybe if you sell mass market shampoo or junkfood, it makes sense. For every other case, you want limited reach. Limited to people who want to hear from you. They might or might not know that they want to hear from you, but the second it feels you intruded their attention, you lost a good customer. And that's true regardless if they buy from you or don't. There's an aftertaste of force. People often hate the practice of marketing, but I realize it's because they were exposed to so much junk. It's like saying you hate Chinese food because you only went to shitty restaurants and got food poisoning. Go to a five star Chinese restaurant. I get it, the shitty marketing way outnumbers nice, honest marketing that you want to hear. So what good is a social network without reach? You want to reach the right people. Those that want to hear from you. Of course small doesn't mean it's the right fit. Promoting scammy shitcoins or junkfood on Nostr won't work, we don't care. But the story is more complex than numbers. And personally - I'd rather not read bullshit with breaking as the first word. And "this changes everything". I wish there was more content that I'm interested in. But this also has a flipside. A lot of content that I'm interested in is just not on other networks.
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What good is a social network or protocol without a lot of users?First a personal flip to this question. I was on mailing lists, usenet, irc, silc, kyberia, facebook, ...Everytime it became too crowded, I left. Not with a statement, rarely it was even a decision. I did not evenburn any bridges and I don't think anything bad about people who stayed. I just stopped going, because the noise(and sometimes drama) was too much compared to the signal.I'm not an introvert, but in this regard something similar - otrovert. I like interactions, I don't get grouprituals.So what good is a social network without numbers to back up reach? I used to work for a web portal of a TVstation. I think one of the worst investments there is is buying a lot of reach. Maybe if you sell mass marketshampoo or junkfood, it makes sense. For every other case, you want limited reach. Limited to people who want tohear from you. They might or might not know that they want to hear from you, but the second it feels youintruded their attention, you lost a good customer. And that's true regardless if they buy from you or don't.There's an aftertaste of force.People often hate the practice of marketing, but I realize it's because they were exposed to so much junk. It'slike saying you hate Chinese food because you only went to shitty restaurants and got food poisoning. Go to afive star Chinese restaurant.I get it, the shitty marketing way outnumbers nice, honest marketing that you want to hear.So what good is a social network without reach?You want to reach the right people. Those that want to hear from you. Of course small doesn't mean it's theright fit. Promoting scammy shitcoins or junkfood on Nostr won't work, we don't care. But the story is morecomplex than numbers.And personally - I'd rather not read bullshit with breaking as the first word. And "this changes everything". Iwish there was more content that I'm interested in. But this also has a flipside. A lot of content that I'minterested in is just not on other networks.
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what was the book on otroverts you mentioned somewhere earlier pls?
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Agreed!
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But everybody wants to be heard. Sharing with the void what excites you and nothing coming back makes you stop sharing. You need numbers to get engagement for everybody.
I can't stand Facebook as it feeds constant stimulus from outside my social circle. X finally allows me to keep following my circle and nothing else. Tiktok and Instagram ... are just sicker versions of Facebook. Nothing social there.
I've always liked the feel of a forum with 50-100 users, a BBS, or a discord where the user base is manageable enough that the rules don't just end up stupid to maximize numbers.
I think the issue is that most social media is more marketing/media, less networking/hanging out. But I run ublock origin; why would I voluntarily seek out such a platform? It'd be like seeking out a loud giant party where there's no ability to chat with anyone and it's all about gossiping about what people wear or what the attention whores do.
Thanks but no thanks.
I'm all for growing Nostr. Or not. Either way my follows will stay sized and targeted to who I want to chat with and see updates (not 'content') from.
Klaus Schwab's dream of mass surveillance relies on your addiction to crowded platforms, doesn't it?
We think much alike.
Can we tell percentage of bots?
