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+- Muslim Bitcoiner -- 22h ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[...]+
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| I updated umbrel and it goes down. 3rd time this has happened. Can't seem to get back in no matter how many times I  |
| restart my raspberry pi.                                                                                             |
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| I'm getting really sick of this. Just going to move to @Start9                                                       |
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| You and your damn browser wallets...                                                                                 |
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| i haven't checked but do you have any WoT features added yet?                                                        |
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| Hey #nostr                                                                                                           |
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| I will be embarking on the journey to build a Nostr group workspace client. I've been closing following projects     |
| like Flotilla, 0xchat, & KeyChat for over a year and while all of these are great contributions to Nostr none of     |
| them have reached for the enterprise level user that my community building work on Nostr has needed. So, I'm going   |
| to draw from the inspiration of everyone here and build someone, think decentralized Slack + Asana + MS365. Right    |
| now I'm scoping it for NIP-29 rooms inside per-workspace relays (Relays-as-Groups model), NIP-17 private channels,   |
| kanban (NIP-100), collaborative file creation and storage, and admin/moderator console that non-tech users can       |
| operate. Goal is that a client like this can remove the barrier in onboarding artists, educators, and non-profits    |
| communities who want to use Nostr but get overwhelmed by the complexity of our ecosystem. I don't foresee this as    |
| re-inventing the wheel so much as consolidating a bunch of different specs into one client.                          |
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| That said, I have three honest questions for all the devs out there:                                                 |
| 1. NDK or Applesauce for a new React + TypeScript project starting today? What are the real-world pain points of     |
| each for NIP-29 + NIP-17 specifically?                                                                               |
| 2. Has anyone shipped NIP-17 group DMs inside a NIP-29 workspace? The multi-recipient gift-wrap pattern works in     |
| theory but I haven't found a working client implementation to reference.                                             |
| 3. Typing indicators (kind 24111 ephemeral) on a private relay — anyone done this? Expecting it to be                |
| straightforward since all members share the relay, but want to know if there are any gotchas.                        |
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| Also if anyone has relay recommendations, I'm assuming something khatru based is best for this endeavor but am open  |
| to suggestions as, like with everything Nostr, I'm learning this as I go.                                            |
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| Happy to share architecture notes with anyone interested in collaborating. Not looking for funding or hype — looking |
| for people who've hit walls in this problem space and are open to sharing their experience and insights.             |
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| #asknostr #dev #buildinpublic                                                                                        |
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+- Muslim Bitcoiner -- 3d ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[...]+
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| Wa alaikum asalam! Welcome! Fellow dad here.                                                                         |
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| Please enable zaps when you can so we can send you money!                                                            |
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| biggest rug pull on nostr imo                                                                                        |
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| yeah, can't zap. very sad                                                                                            |
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| i would just start by engaging with what you see on here that you like. there is no algorithm to push content in     |
| your face here so you have to explore. jumble.social is a great place to check out relay feeds if that's something   |
| you're interested in, but most of the big clients run some sort of cashing relay that should do a good enough job to |
| get you started. Always ask if you have questions about stuff here. Folks are usually pretty supportive              |
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| but are the AI trainings actually being put to productive use or are opperations basically staying the same? my gut  |
| tells me we aren't at peak yet but idk 🤷🏻‍♂️                                                                           |
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| pastries are the only thing that could sell this to me. got to be better than what i can pick up at cosco though     |
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| same! i use a Fossil atm cause i wanted something more dumb than smart. notifications are the primary use of smart   |
| watches personally and i've been leaning toward wanting less and less of these but open-source would be great for    |
| customization, eapecially as AR glasses start to take off and a lot of features migrate their first.                 |
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| looks better than my closet office 😂                                                                                 |
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+- Muslim Bitcoiner -- 5d ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[...]+
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| So much of the scene in Muslim tech is just slop                                                                     |
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| The funding that's involved in this "Pipeline" is going straight into building toxic SaaS FinTech sludge that locks  |
| Muslims in a fiat subscription and make them more passive and dependent while having their data sold to Israeli tech |
| firms.                                                                                                               |
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| This entire model to funding just needs to die man. It just produces more Muslim founders optimizing for acquisition |
| + platform dependence + high time preference investor expectations instead of building anything that meaningfully    |
| challenges the infrastructure we’re trapped in, while also incentivizing Muslims to be more passive in cyber.        |
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| Anyway, Jummah Mubarak.                                                                                              |
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| https://image.nostr.build/008a045a402d003bf9568d8340740ac37c73be1716627b647a97b11a8c5ea465.jpg                       |
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| ج م 🕌                                                                                                                |
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| We have a lot of work to do to make Nostr great. Just like the early Muhajarun did in building Medina. Those of us   |
| who have been here a while, we are the Ansar now. Ensure we are maintaining connections with the new folks here.     |
| Onboarding isn't just a technological switch you make by downloading new software. It is the relationships you       |
| engage in in that new space that are the locus of transformation.                                                    |
| nostr:naddr1qq2kwwz3femyvep5dez5566kxc6ys6m3f385xq3q7veg2gt7ja4dnjhs23jyttvpqlde3ajevlxuumxwghnqmgqwuv4qxpqqqp65wync |
| ys3                                                                                                                  |
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+- calle -- 5d ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[...]+
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| end stage shitcoin psychosis                                                                                         |
| note:ea06813e…379b                                                                                                   |
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| Parents! Please do not post pics of your kids!                                                                       |
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| Personal story. I have be very clear with the school my daughter is in not to take pictures of her and post them     |
| online or in any marketing/promotional stuff. Had to yell at them this week for violating that (again). 🤦🏻‍♂️          |
| note:b9867e93…a2e7                                                                                                   |
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| {"id":"2d7a4bedeb180b4f03bc2e2ed20b95263e4cfbe57ecf5b6c430598a5eba7705e","pubkey":"d3503e7fee91a4b0bc27feec2f94abcae |
| 7be96172296dd52db91d55438cbe529","created_at":1776768535,"kind":1,"tags":[["imeta","url                              |
| https://image.nostr.build/f9cbb82f9feac21ab673a3e6b905a58398bbe6796b6f86ae0e3370c382d445cf.jpg","blurhash            |
| egQ9+fayt7fQaz~qWBaeWCWC4nWBRjWBWB_2WBayayWCD%WBWBayay","dim                                                         |
| 1179x1159"],["r","https://image.nostr.build/f9cbb82f9feac21ab673a3e6b905a58398bbe6796b6f86ae0e3370c382d445cf.jpg"]], |
| "content":"Tuesday                                                                                                   |
| dua\n\nhttps://image.nostr.build/f9cbb82f9feac21ab673a3e6b905a58398bbe6796b6f86ae0e3370c382d445cf.jpg","sig":"22d4da |
| a2f798a3e4f26585c881cd83eab5b002d1a1210d6d2ade29f0a6b2ea452b5c4d9d8e150dda7de876e7bdf68dc30ad86277a4c1bacb6b1aba2c12 |
| 1c0753"}                                                                                                             |
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| {"id":"3576c5acdb1ddb08af484e6799f9be4eb6d97d095b11e8778a88b4e598c21188","pubkey":"5729ad991a7e0cb88971ced2348758105 |
| 790d51160a09b22d0d8f39ca762de11","created_at":1776991775,"kind":1,"tags":[["alt","A short note: 💯 spot on couldn't   |
| say it                                                                                                               |
| better\nnostr:nevent1qqs..."],["p","adc14fa3ad590856dd8b80815d367f7c1e6735ad00fd98a86d002fbe9fb535e1","wss://bitcoin |
| maximalists.online/"],["zap","adc14fa3ad590856dd8b80815d367f7c1e6735ad00fd98a86d002fbe9fb535e1","wss://bitcoinmaxima |
| lists.online/","0.5"],["zap","5729ad991a7e0cb88971ced2348758105790d51160a09b22d0d8f39ca762de11","wss://nos.lol/","0. |
| 5"],["client","Amethyst"]],"content":"💯 spot on couldn't say it                                                      |
| better\nnote:5b73bedc…9165","sig":"8c43430b599794b9c184c0da499d09a4fc7e3d092e7b55604903b4323b3e79801b07d05e46af46cd7 |
| 099efa462279dfbb1533113481e1a50707db7a80a97ab82"}                                                                    |
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| hear about Iraq but not Syria. very interesting                                                                      |
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| stop! i have to try this now 😋                                                                                       |
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| 👀 i know someone who worked at that cloud seeing place. haven't heard from them in a month. this is big if true      |
| note:f5729609…3bb6                                                                                                   |
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| {"id":"c3b11491fd220dabc691bc3ddfe6fd811e738e9f2891c951054ca4c65101ede7","pubkey":"4523be58d395b1b196a9b8c82b038b689 |
| 5cb02b683d0c253a955068dba1facd0","created_at":1776890569,"kind":1,"tags":[["imeta","url                              |
| https://npub1g53mukxnjkcmr94fhryzkqutdz2ukq4ks0gvy5af25rgmwsl4ngq43drvk.blossom.band/a4e199c8416b531337f9ff1d3fd3010 |
| 0ceb64c6afe14cc1e65e3c95ccadc5bd4.png","dim 2630x1904","blurhash                                                     |
| L65}p*M{o$Rj?doMkERkD%%Naeo3"]],"content":"https://npub1g53mukxnjkcmr94fhryzkqutdz2ukq4ks0gvy5af25rgmwsl4ngq43drvk.b |
| lossom.band/a4e199c8416b531337f9ff1d3fd30100ceb64c6afe14cc1e65e3c95ccadc5bd4.png\n\nhttps://audio.iris.to/#/npub1af8 |
| 708jh7gynpxlla5he9u9etdva85wtf6yfy3zrnzhw5lhrzlks685f8p/metal-catalog\n\nSpotify clone on nostr / blossom /          |
| hashtree. Data is loaded from peers over webrtc even if you disable the blossom servers.\n\nHashtree is a nostr      |
| native \"IPFS lite\", basically just blossom + directories and file chunking. Everything is content hash key         |
| encrypted by default, which is nice for blossom server admins. More: https://hashtree.cc/#/dev\n\nBtree indexes on   |
| hashtree enable large, searchable decentralized databases that can be used for all kinds of \"platform\"             |
| applications.\n\nHashtree indexes can be queried a bit like nostr relays, but they're not tied to any IP address,    |
| domain name or host. You can sync them over any transport and search offline.\n\nContent-addressed indexes are       |
| transparent: you can verify that you see the same search results as others and aren't shadowbanned.\n\nYou can       |
| easily fork the large indexes (such as audio.iris.to catalogs) and add your own results into them, even in the       |
| browser.","sig":"b2da09526c82f51f60537881134f69e46d29baa3834a1cb59f6436f753edcb51bc9789fa81f6f26dd6fbf5f3ed92de6533d |
| 72811655245f89e54982425303ea3"}                                                                                      |
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| i have never had Reddit 🫠                                                                                            |
| note:c2b77986…58a8                                                                                                   |
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| gm                                                                                                                   |
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+- Thayr -- 6d ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[...]+
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| المعذرة لم تفهم كلامي لا اقصد ان الزنا ليس كبيرة، اضفته في الموضوع لاثبات طريقة تطبيق الحدود قرآنيا (بما ان الموضوع  |
| استقراء قرآني) "العلماء" اختلفوا في كل شيء ولا معنى لاختلافهم الأمر في اتباع الدليل بناءا من القرآن أولا بمنهجية     |
| منطقية حيادية لا يقدم شيء على القرآن وحتى القرآن يتم الجمع فيه بعضه ببعض ثم كل حديث ينظر في جميع طرقه ورواياته       |
| والفاظه،الخ ويدري ثم يجمع مع غيره بناءا على القرآن. واستحالة ان يخالف حديث نبوي صحيح بلا شك القرآن صراحة الا ان كان  |
| امرا مؤقتا ومنسوخ فلا ينسخ الحديث القرآن. لا يهمني امر كبيرة وغير كبيرة الموضوع الحقوق وانظمة العقوبات وكيف تقام     |
| الدولة والنزاع بين الناس الخ.                                                                                        |
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| i got a T490 off Amazon for $180 last year                                                                           |
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| heard the same recently                                                                                              |
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| anyone using Hermes? what's been your experience?                                                                    |
| note:dda46e85…7d8e                                                                                                   |
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+- Thayr -- 7d ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[...]+
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| اذا لم تتفق معي على حقيقتها في الاخرة فلا مانع، الأهم هو اتباع القرآن عند تطبيق العقوبة دنيويا على السحاق واللواط    |
| والقرآن هو حبل الله الذي نعتصم به ويجب الا نتفرق عنه. فلا توجد رواية او حديث يقدم على القرآن الصريح العربي وهو       |
| الأثبت سندا ومتنا من اي حديث ورواية وبالقطع اثبت من رواية موضوعة مكذوبة من عكرمة الكذاب مولى عبدالله بن عباس رضي     |
| الله عنه. كما فضحه عبدالله بن عمر رضي الله عنه وعلي ابن عبدالله بن عباس. دولة الاسلام ليست دموية متشددة حيث بها هيئة |
| امر بالمعروف ونهي عن المنكر مثل السعودية او طالبان حيث المنكر لديهم في المعاصي الشخصية والمعروف هو اجبار السنن او    |
| الواجبات على الناس والاكراه في الدين. حتى الزنا لا يعاقب الا عند ٤ شهود يعني في العلن وليس في خصوصية الدار والملكية  |
| الخاصة التي لا يجوز دخولها من دون اذن صاحبها ولا يجوز التجسس، الخ. لا اكراه في الدين مهما قال الاسلاميين الذين اذا   |
| وصلوا للحكم ضيقوا الحياة وطاردوا الناس في معاصيهم الفردية وقلصوا حقوقهم الإنسانية بغير سلطان. دولة الاسلام تبنى على  |
| الطوعية وحق تقرير المصير الكامل، الخ ليست بالجبر والاكراه ولا مصدر للدين الا من الله ورسوله المعصوم وليس حتى الصحابة |
| فهم يختلفون ويخطؤون ويصيبون لا مؤمنهم ولا منافقهم.                                                                   |
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| الأمى كان اغتصاب واجبار على الشذوذ اخي اعد قراءة الايات وكلامي ارجوك رحمك الله، واعطني ما هو فهمك للكبائر في القرآن  |
| استقراءا من القرآن وليس الانحياز للمشهور من الأقوال.                                                                 |
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