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| a9pnza7fpnm95j4795y99jd3ywqds5rlssg Yes, it's being released soon. We got      |
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| GrapheneOS App Store version 36 released:                                      |
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| https://github.com/GrapheneOS/AppStore/releases/tag/36                         |
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| See the linked release notes for a summary of the improvements over the        |
| previous release and a link to the full changelog.                             |
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| Forum discussion thread:                                                       |
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| https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/34820-grapheneos-app-store-version-36-release |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe Volla has created a highly                 |
| anti-competitive alternative to the Play Integrity API which they're pushing   |
| for European banking and government apps to adopt. They want to seize control  |
| over which hardware and OSes are allowed by EU banking and governments apps.   |
| Their system will permit their own products and those of other companies       |
| working with them while banning GrapheneOS and most other operating systems    |
| and alternative hardware options.                                              |
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| https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116200110686604617                       |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe Volla has created a highly                 |
| anti-competitive alternative to the Play Integrity API which they're pushing   |
| for European banking and government apps to adopt. They want to seize control  |
| over which hardware and OSes are allowed by EU banking and governments apps.   |
| Their system will permit their own products and those of other companies       |
| working with them while banning GrapheneOS and most other operating systems    |
| and alternative hardware options.                                              |
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| https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116200110686604617                       |
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| mppp4v64z24gu0jwjmklzut39g2eseu9c5e                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe Volla inaccurately markets their insecure  |
| hardware with poor updates as being highly private and secure. They've         |
| repeatedly misled people about GrapheneOS despite pretending to be friendly    |
| towards us and asking us to support their devices. That even includes their    |
| employees making sockpuppet accounts to mislead people about GrapheneOS which  |
| is very clearly proven here:                                                   |
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| https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116251325625494349                       |
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| A company stooping to this level to harm an open source project is very sad.   |
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| mppp4v64z24gu0jwjmklzut39g2eseu9c5e                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe Those are an enormous sacrifice for        |
| privacy, security, usability and functionality. There's nowhere close to the   |
| same level of app ecosystem. They don't provide proper support from the        |
| beginning let alone doing it for longer. They're not nearly as privacy         |
| friendly and don't have anywhere close to a comparable privacy-focused open    |
| source app ecosystem. Moving to far less private/secure desktop software is    |
| the opposite direction from GrapheneOS improving privacy/security.             |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe We already have a website including an     |
| FAQ. It's strange you're talking about it as if we don't. If people already    |
| aren't reading thbe content on our site, how is adding far more of it going to |
| help?                                                                          |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe It causes substantial harm through         |
| spreading harmful misconceptions and misunderstandings. Anyone who supports    |
| GrapheneOS should refrain from inaccurately referring to it as a ROM.          |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe This misinformation isn't being created in |
| good faith and isn't a misunderstanding on their part which needs to be        |
| addressed with documentation. We can't reach most of the people they've        |
| misled. They're not going to read our website content and are mostly going to  |
| remain misinformed. What we can do is deter these groups from continuing to    |
| mislead people about GrapheneOS which has repeatedly worked and cut down on    |
| the ongoing attacks. Multiple organizations largely stopped.                   |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe The widespread misinformation and          |
| misconceptions haven't occurred naturally but rather through concerted efforts |
| to mislead people about GrapheneOS. This specific example has been primarily   |
| driven by several organizations trying to promote their products through       |
| misleading people into believing GrapheneOS isn't what they want when it       |
| clearly is. Spreading and legitimizing their attacks would be the opposite of  |
| helpful and isn't how we're approaching handling it.                           |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe Our content repeatedly states GrapheneOS   |
| is a privacy project and heavily covers our privacy features. That includes    |
| the content on our website, our long form posts on our forum and elsewhere     |
| along with shorter form posts. There's nowhere that we've presented it with    |
| the strange claim that it's somehow a security project rather than a privacy   |
| project. We work on security to protect privacy and it makes little sense to   |
| claim we're working on security rather than privacy.                           |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe There are an essentially unlimited number  |
| of inaccurate claims and outright fabrications people come up with to attack   |
| GrapheneOS. They quickly move on to others. There's very little point in       |
| collecting attacks on the project and propagating them on their behalf. It     |
| isn't going to help with resolving the problem, which is that there are        |
| concerted efforts to to mislead people about GrapheneOS. We already have a     |
| website and other posts providing accurate information on it.                  |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe It's incorrect terminology and shouldn't   |
| be used to refer to GrapheneOS. It propagates misconceptions and               |
| misunderstandings. It's an operating systems, not read-only memory firmware.   |
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| GrapheneOS is not solely a replacement for a stock OS on a device can be the   |
| stock OS itself. It isn't inherently an aftermarket OS.                        |
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| This has nothing to do with x86 vs. ARM and that doesn't match the way you're  |
| using the term in this thread or elsewhere regardless.                         |
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| qjc00d42d2ud4xug8w4eym0sl7c0s9cs6wx As another example, consider a camera app  |
| with filters which uploads every picture and video to their servers to do the  |
| processing on their cloud vs. one which does everything locally and doesn't    |
| send user data anywhere but includes a crash reporting system and basic        |
| analytics to know how much features get used. The one with the crash reporting |
| system and analytics will be classified as having 2 'trackers' vs. the very    |
| privacy invasive one sending off your sensitive data with 0.                   |
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| qjc00d42d2ud4xug8w4eym0sl7c0s9cs6wx As an example, a bank's services are       |
| privacy invasive because they track all of your payments and everything else   |
| they can see. They often provide a lot of the data to third parties including  |
| selling it. Whether or not their app uses client side analytics and telemetry  |
| connecting to a few domains dedicated to that which are considered trackers    |
| doesn't matter much. It's the difference between extremely privacy invasive    |
| vs. surface level things which tend to not matter much.                        |
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| qjc00d42d2ud4xug8w4eym0sl7c0s9cs6wx You should figure out what's actually      |
| making the requests which are being identified that way. It could be from web  |
| browsing where EasyList + EasyPrivacy don't block those because it would break |
| functionality but another list being used to evaluate the requests considers   |
| them trackers. In general, it's not going to consider the most privacy         |
| invasive requests made to an app's own servers to be trackers because it's     |
| used for the functionality so it doesn't mean much at all.                     |
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| qjc00d42d2ud4xug8w4eym0sl7c0s9cs6wx The number of connections to domains       |
| classified as being used for trackers but a given list means very little. The  |
| most privacy invasive behaviors by apps are usually done via their own         |
| servers. It's primarily the unimportant surface level privacy issues which are |
| tied to those kinds of domains commonly listed as being used for tracking.     |
| Domains aren't neatly separated into ones used for tracking and everything     |
| else. We don't it's a good way to evaluate privacy or to compare.              |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe SailfishOS is far less private and secure  |
| than the Android Open Source Project. It's not an open source project but      |
| rather most of the code specific to it is closed source. They don't share our  |
| values around individual human rights as shown by their 8 year partnership     |
| with the Russian government where Jolla was largely owned by it. You wrongly   |
| believe this project is in the same space as us and that we're working towards |
| the same things or in the same areas when we aren't.                           |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe GrapheneOS isn't read-only memory firmware |
| and isn't a custom variant of a stock OS. It isn't inherently an aftermarket   |
| OS either. The terms ROM and custom ROM are inaccurate and very misleading.    |
| Those lead to people having major misconceptions about what it is and          |
| discourage adoption. A good starting point to increasing adoption is to avoid  |
| terminology which consistently proves to result in people having               |
| misconceptions about it and being scared off by the jargon being used.         |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe GrapheneOS is much more usable than other  |
| alternatives primarily due to having far broader app compatibility and much    |
| better stability. It's a production quality OS not requriing major sacrifices  |
| compared to the mainstream option. It isn't at all similar to moving from      |
| Windows to Linux where people need to move to a different app ecosystem where  |
| a lot of the software they previously used isn't easily available. It's much   |
| easier to move to GrapheneOS than that kind of move.                           |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe SailfishOS merges together outdated AOSP   |
| and desktop Linux components along with their own closed source UI /           |
| application layer. It implements a compatibility layer for Android apps with   |
| AOSP code in a way that throws away the application sandbox and                |
| privacy/security provided by AOSP. It's a huge downgrade for privacy and       |
| security as a whole. It's also not an open source OS which can be forked as    |
| AOSP can be but rather the parts they make are largely closed source instead.  |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe Volla OS is a fork of the Android Open     |
| Source Project similarly to GrapheneOS. AOSP is a Linux distribution and so    |
| are both of these. Unlike GrapheneOS, Volla OS greatly reduces privacy and     |
| security compared to AOSP rather than greatly improving them.                  |
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| fusvfprc47t8gu9q990n4nxqjexhqelgyqj                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe No, Volla OS is a fork of the Android Open |
| Source Project similarly to GrapheneOS. AOSP is a Linux distribution and so    |
| are both of these. Unlike GrapheneOS, Volla OS greatly reduces privacy and     |
| security compared to AOSP rather than greatly improving them.                  |
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| You're likely confusing Volla with Jolla which makes SailfishOS. SailfishOS    |
| uses outdated AOSP code and Android hardware support combined with desktop     |
| Linux software and their own closed source UI / application layer.             |
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| qdvh0g27dgne04zn5dr5mznukagasr69wed                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe The devices we support have 7 years of     |
| proper updates from launch. Used devices with many years of proper updates are |
| much better than low-end devices. Low end devices don't receive many of those  |
| updates from the beginning and then end up fully end-of-life after a couple    |
| years. Using an alternate OS doesn't work around this as it still depends on   |
| the firmware, kernel, driver, HALs and other code being released by the SoC    |
| vendor, OEM, etc.                                                              |
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| rqyxmnfycxeyuzvhfm78mnfn3tctsx79us5                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe Fairphones consistently ship with outdated |
| hardware from the beginning, don't receive proper updates from the beginning   |
| and end up being prematurely obsolete.                                         |
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| Fairphone presents shipping a final OS update 3 years after it was released as |
| providing 3 additional years of OS updates compared to an OEM shipping it as a |
| final update on the day it launched.                                           |
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| Fairphones don't even receive 1 year of updates anywhere close to what the     |
| devices we support have for 7 years.                                           |
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| rqyxmnfycxeyuzvhfm78mnfn3tctsx79us5                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe GrapheneOS requires devices to provide     |
| many years of proper updates. Fairphone commits to providing many years of     |
| updates but doesn't follow through on truly doing it. They ship a subset of    |
| the AOSP security patches multiple months late and OS updates at least a year  |
| late. They skip shipping nearly all the Linux kernel patches and don't update  |
| the kernel branch so it ends up end-of-life. They skip many driver, HAL and    |
| firmware patches. That's not proper support.                                   |
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| rqyxmnfycxeyuzvhfm78mnfn3tctsx79us5                                            |
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| w8quetk6tam89jn07qg2zsk0un64qgq37xe Fairphone fails to provide standard        |
| updates to the Linux kernel from day one which makes their devices insecure,   |
| prematurely obsolete and unsustainable. Only providing a tiny portion of the   |
| updates to a massive portion of the OS is not a serious approach to updates    |
| and is incompatible with truly providing long term support and sustainability. |
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| Fairphone 3, 4 and 5 have an end-of-life kernel branch. Fairphone 6 will too.  |
| They don't have any plans to address this.                                     |
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| j84nppdv5lgpv3ss67cpftzsres4svky274 If your app has a hard dependency on Play  |
| services then there's not much point in publishing it via Accrescent. If you   |
| can avoid a hard dependency on Play services then publishing it via Accrescent |
| would allow people to use it without involving Google Play. Accrescent also    |
| distributes the releases you sign rather than releases signed by Google, but   |
| it's a game not handling sensitive data so that isn't a big deal. GrapheneOS   |
| users can install it from the Play Store perfectly fine now.                   |
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| nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyd968gmewwp6kyqpqqlhllz44qcejrz5ugufleuz |
| j84nppdv5lgpv3ss67cpftzsres4svky274 If you want to make your app your app      |
| easily available outside of the Play Store, you can apply to publish it via    |
| Accrescent which is a Play Store alternative available in the GrapheneOS App   |
| Store. It's currently in Alpha and you need to apply to publish apps through   |
| it. See https://accrescent.app/ for more information.                          |
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| Your app is easily available to GrapheneOS users regardless especially now     |
| that you fixed the Play Integrity API store listing issue but you can support  |
| an alternative.                                                                |
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| nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyd968gmewwp6kyqpqqlhllz44qcejrz5ugufleuz |
| j84nppdv5lgpv3ss67cpftzsres4svky274 If your app want to make your app easily   |
| available outside of the Play Store, you can apply to publish it via           |
| Accrescent which is a Play Store alternative available in the GrapheneOS App   |
| Store. It's currently in Alpha and you need to apply to publish apps through   |
| it. See https://accrescent.app/ for more information.                          |
|                                                                                |
| Your app is easily available to GrapheneOS users regardless especially now     |
| that you fixed the Play Integrity API store listing issue but you can support  |
| an alternative.                                                                |
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